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Beekeeping is becoming more popular in Cambodia

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not being an asshole

 

No. But you enjoy giving people shit.

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James I would like to thank you for your reply. I know full well, time and work is taken when trying to establish a new venture.

I also at this time must agree with Richard. I also don't need another hobby. I too would like to know how much an average investment would be in this type of venture. At minimum to support my monthly living expenses.

Your honey production, final accounts are a little vague on what the bee's will hope to produce per kilogram per year.

And could you please tell me more clearly, are the figures for one hive, or several.

 

 

 


I used to produce average 50 kgs a year in north qld and thisis the reported average for stationary hives.

 

This yield on honey production is worth $1500. Less the start up of the price's you have quoted above $560. That is using one hive. Less packaging and other expenses to sell the end product.

 

 

 


The viets produce anything up to 40kg on longan flowers over a period o about 6 weeks.

 

Sorry James, this is not so clear. Veterans in honey production (meaning people of experience, or have been doing it for a long time). Or people of Vietnam. Up to 40kg x 8 yields per year is a better proposition. potently worth $6,400 estimated on the lower end of $20 per kilo.

But on the above Post. Villagers in Koh Kong take from forest near their hometowns. 7000kg potently worth $140,000 at $20 per kilo. They also specify that honey is for the export market.

 

 

 


price here in cambodia runs between $20-$35/kg and is easy to sell.

 

Who are the potential customer's. Is it sold to Westerners or Khmer's. I find it very difficult to sell to local people. Here in Cambodia and many countries in Asia tend to deal with their own kind.

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No. But you enjoy giving people shit.

 

Please lets keep on the subject Paul. Lets not turn this into a (Retirement Visa Post).

 

James is good to give us knowledge of his new adventure in Cambodia. And I am sure a few readers and members are very interested.   

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all the figures are for one hive. when i refer to viets- it is migratory bee keepers in vietnam i am referring to not the average vietnamese person.

no you would not get 8 yields of 40 kg per year. i am ONLY referring to the LONGAN flowering period of 6 weeks which is the target species for the whole indochina region.

 

And hey- I am not trying to push this on anyone.

 

You would do better to do some research yourself as normal due diligence if you are looking at going into this business.

It is certainly taking off here.

I have 70 full depth boxes arriving today- part of a substantial order for an apiary in Kep which appears to be doing very well.

As far as the wild honey from Apis dorsata, I know nothing other than most of it you see on the local market is about 1/2 palm sugar and contaminated water.

 

We have Khmers coming to the gate regularly asking to buy honey which we do not have- i am making more bee colonies rather than working for honey right now.

 

The figures I have given are pretty conservative and should allow you to depart upon research to cost and verify to see if this is for you.

It is risky, it is hot, you will hurt your back and you will get stung.

But 3 months to amortize is a pretty spectacular win considering you will put less than 5 hrs into getting the product to a marketable stage in total if all goes well.

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no you would not get 8 yields of 40 kg per year. i am ONLY referring to the LONGAN flowering period of 6 weeks which is the target species for the whole indochina region.

 

Thanks' James this is more clear. So obviously depends on the flora within a two mile radius to the hive.  

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But one of the largest problems I see in Cambodia (not being negative).

  1. Bees cannot forage in heavy rain
  2. The rain fills the flowers with water – so that bees cannot access the nectar or the flower.

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LOL, OK, I give up.

Apiculture is thriving in Vietnam and Thailand.

 

You can see what people are doing in Cambodia here

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1700308436891922/

 

so whatever problems you may foresee as someone who does not keep bees can likely be tested there.

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Please lets keep on the subject Paul. Lets not turn this into a (Retirement Visa Post).

 

And how about you let me run this forum?

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Apiculture is thriving in Vietnam and Thailand.

 

I hope too that it thrives in Cambodia. Keep the posts coming James. Very interesting subject. 

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You can see what people are doing in Cambodia here

 

As soon as I can confirm with you, and finish up a small project at the farm, I will head down that way, James. I want to give it a shot, anyway, whether they live, die, thrive, or fail. 

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